[CF-Devel] Technical Object Questions

[Mark Wedel]

On Wed, 1 Aug 2001, Nils Lohner wrote:
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      - some items (keys, shields, arrows) have no names
     
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      ...answer: they use their archetype name tmp->arch->name
     
     
 That sounds correct.


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      - daggers aren't throwable
     
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      ...find throwing daggers :)
     
     
 You can actually throw anything (chairs, swords, etc).  However, items
that are specially throwable throw a lot better.

 To be honest, I don't think many people actually use the throwing feature
of crossfire - I think this to some extent is because it is hard to get enough
throwable items to make it worth the bother to use this (and using bows
is more effective).


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      - chairs and tables are classed as 'weapons'
     
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      item name chair
     
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      item type 15
     
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      0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000
     
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      ...and chairs (if weapons :) should at least be throwable as well.
     
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      ...should/could a type 'FURNITURE' be created for them?
     
     
 I think they should be throwable (as said, I believe everything is
throwable).  Now it may be that they are not the first thing to be chosen.


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      - looking at food (generic food)
     
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      FOOD
     
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      item name==NULL food
     
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      item type 6
     
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      0 [31] 0010 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 1100 [0]
     
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      1 [63] 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 [32]
     
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      2 [95] 0000 0000 0000 0001 0000 0000 0000 0000 [64]
     
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      3 [127] 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 [96]
     
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      ...the flag[2] is #define FLAG_CAN_USE_SKILL      79 /* The monster can use skills */
     
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      ...is this normal??!??
     
     
 If I read your table above, would that entry actually be 80?
That one is FLAG_BEEN_APPLIED, which meant the player has applied
(eaten) at least one of the food objects.

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      Otherwise, I have a good idea of how I want it to work, how to integrate
     
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      it with the existing one, and how to finish it.  Suggestions for other
     
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      autopickup classes welcome.
     
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      two more to add:
     
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      LITERATURE books, scrolls
     
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      DRINKS drinks
     
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      POTIONS
     
     
 Most people use value density pickup, which covers things like potions
and scrolls and leaves the heavier stuff alone.  But having more choices
is never bad.


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      Maybe even get more detailed, but at that point the functionality should
     
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      come from search-items since that takes game-time.  Just grabbing one
     
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      type of thing shouldn't take time, sorting for something should.
     
     
 Really, this is a matter of playability and fun.  In theory, any amount
of choosing on any criteria should take time.  IF there is a pile of 20
items, and you only want to pick up 5 of those, it should realistically
take some time to pick those out.  And while many items group together
into large sums, in reality, they would probably be scattered apart - that
500 gp wouldn't be a nice pile, but rather scattered all over the area in
single coin pieces in most cases.



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      Also, can I get read-only CVS access on SF?  I don't need write, I don't
     
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      know how much I'll contribute, and I can submit a lot as patches if
     
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      someone's willing to apply them.
     
     
 Look at the notes on sourceforge - it has directions on setting up
your CVS stuff (anyone who wants it gets read-only access to all sourceforge
stuff, because everything is set up that way).

 I would say that if you do plan to do more work on crossfire, you should
get write access at some point.  I certainly do like to look over and
review submissions by new developers, but at some point, this just becomes
a time waster and better for the person to just check in their stuff directly.