On Mon, Aug 20, 2001 at 07:30:59PM -0500, Rick Tanner wrote: > Besides checking with the metaserver page or logging in with a client, is > there any way to check and see if a Crossfire server is up and runing? Well actually it IS logging in, but it works: mids at debian :~$ telnet mids.student.utwente.nl 13327 Trying 130.89.221.177... Connected to cal005307.student.utwente.nl. Escape character is '^]'. #version 1023 1026 Crossfire Server quit Connection closed by foreign host. You can also enter the command 'oldsocketmode' it doesnt work well, but you then can use some other commands like 'who' 'hiscore' and probably 'shout'. Joris Bontje / mids