[CF-Devel] Re: [Freeciv-Dev] FreeCiv sounds
dnh
dnh at hawthorn.csse.monash.edu.au
Mon Jan 29 03:21:17 CST 2001
On Mon, 29 Jan 2001, Michael Toennies wrote:
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Hm, i know that some of you never even started the dx client,
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but you really should do it. No one said you must play it,
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but perhaps you will find some interesting.
If you don't have access to windows... may I ask how I am _supposed_ to
try it?? Perhaps you are making an assumption that everyone has windows
somewhere?
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Because i have do some hard work to the sound interface on client side
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inclusive many new sounds.
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So, walking around with dxclient in CF with sounds gives you a real new game
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feeling.
Cool.
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I had new sounds for handles and a row of spell sounds included. Also a
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system
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of how many and which sounds should be repeat and so on.
Cool. have you got a system for handling multiple sounds for the same
thing? Ie two different physical attack sounds that randomly change
between the two?
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I had announced the sound interface some times and asked also for spell
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sounds, but i got more
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and more the feeling most of my work get ignored because i develop for
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windows.
No, it isn't ignored. But what can I say or do? You wont do anything for
the linux client.. why should you expect the reverse?
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I mean, the dx client has now more than 50 sounds.
Wow. That is nice... why haven't you put them in the linux client?
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You got sound effects when you get drained or depleted, even when you
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wear/unwear a item
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which changes states. Warning for food. Dynamic hp lose "ouch" sounds = more
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hp lose =
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harder sounds = you got hit hard.
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Dynamic food steps, looping background sound, give me a server command for
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it...
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Spell sounds for many different spells, etc, etc, etc.
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I put most "weapon" sounds to a "deep" sound, which you can hear longer and
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don't start to
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go after 5 minutes on your nerves, etc.
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Well, look by yourself.
This I am afraid is impossible. I have absolutely no access what so ever
to a windows machine and thus cannot look. I got a brief glimpse awhile
ago cause I installed it on a friends computer (who didn't have sound).
Again I stress, you seem to think that the linux developers (I am not sure
how many there are) are going to constantly check to see what they can
copy from the windows client. I have noted the linux client is being
constantly worked on, I assume by Mark, for example there is now code for
handling metaserver instructions. For things like your new sounds, please
please please, explain to someone that you have them, and ask if they can
put them in. It would appear the current situation is, windows client is
getting updated completely seperatly to the *nix client, perhaps better
team work is involved here??
dnh
ps. still waiting for images of _certain_ people ;)
pps. Go look at the new poll on Mids web page (mids.student.utwente.nl)
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> Seems like this pops up periodically.
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> While any new sounds are cool, I'm not sure if gunfire is going
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> to do much good
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> for us.
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> In fact, there already is gunfire sounds with crossfire which
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> are used for the
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> magic bullet spells.
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> The general problem with combat spells is the frequency of which
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> they might be
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> used. most reasonably characters get 10-30 attacks per real time
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> second. The
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> sounds get repetitive pretty quickly.
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> Sound for melee combat also get tricky. You basically have 9
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> potential sounds
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> for attacks. The attacker could either be using a flesh (hands)
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> weapon, wooden,
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> or metal. Likewise, the defender may have any of those three things.
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> Having metal clanking would be a bit odd of the character is attacking an
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> unarmored foe with a club for example.
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> That said, where I would like to conentrate sounds for:
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> 1) spell sounds - they are not cast quite as often, plus the
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> information can
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> actually be useful (if you are hearing lightning bolts, you have
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> some idea what
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> may be upcoming. This doesn't work for melee sounds very well, because
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> creatures will not attack anything unless its next to them, but
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> they will often
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> fire spells. Also, many sounds are duplicated for many spells -
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> would be nicer
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> for more unique sounds (102 sounds apparantly use the magic sound effect).
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> 2) Effect sounds. We're still missing a good sound for the
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> opening/closing of
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> gates and grates. The sound for handles right now is a bit iffy
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> (the boink
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> sound). The player is killed sound often is not played, because
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> it is too long
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> and fails a test in the code (same is true for players joining).
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> The gong is
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> probably as good as any in terms of player dead sounds.
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> 3) Background sounds - while less important, some water sounds
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> could be useful
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> for both rivers and fountains (which may help players know there
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> is a fountain
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> in a dungeon for example).
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> At some point, how sounds are played needs to be redone. But I
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> think the above
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> might at least be a decent shopping list for what sounds to look
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> out for. But
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> one thing is that the sound really needs to be distinct. Some
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> sounds are such
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> that when mixed with other sounds, it almost more sounds like
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> static or non
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> distinctive to what it really is for.
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