I had ported the dx client to David Gervais iso view. Yo can see some demo results here. They are VERY basic, i only cut 20 tiles from DGs set. But the results are stunning. I *don't* change anything on the server - only maps and clients get changed. http://mids.student.utwente.nl/~michtoen/isodemo1.png http://mids.student.utwente.nl/~michtoen/isodemo2.png http://mids.student.utwente.nl/~michtoen/isodemo3.png And thats the look if you login to a normal gfx/server. Just to show how it works. http://mids.student.utwente.nl/~michtoen/isodemo4.png some facts: - grafiks look awesome when you move. Same effect like in diablo or other real iso games. - Moving is easy. i changed the client macros, you move quick and easy. - the 3D effect is stunning - The djinn is a player (!) character - because you are now free in high, the djinn are a 1 tile monster... so its possible to include giants and others as player chars. - Tiles are not anymore 32x32 - they can be any size!! - the client puts the tiles in the right position. - the pngs itself are not bigger, because many parts are background color One point are the maps. All TECHNICAL and TRICKY stuff can stay unchanged. All changes are more cosmetical or pratical kind of nature. But it is not possible to simply convert them. This will work, but look bad. But in all cases, we has to change the background style. I will start tomorrow the server again and i will upload the modified client, so you can test for yourself. Michael