So.. I'm trying to compile the new plugin stuff.. and I have a few beefs.. 1) server/Makefile.in: LIBS = @LIBS@ $(EXTRA_LIBS) -ldl That line is bad. Bad line! configure needs to take care of that. Not all of us live on systems that have or even need libdl.so 2) plugin/Makefile is really ugly.. Why does it need to be manually edited like that? #1 is the only one that needs to be fixed ASAP though, as #2 I can hack around for awhile. --- Tim Rightnour < root at garbled.net > NetBSD: Free multi-architecture OS http://www.netbsd.org/ NetBSD supported hardware database: http://mail-index.netbsd.org/cgi-bin/hw.cgi