Well, I am around again (somewhat). I have a plea, is someone interested in merging the alternate and standard sets properly? What this entails is redoing the arch handler so that like xpm and png images, either standard or alternate can be requested. How to do it, well it will require some client adding (although it isn't actually necessary, the change can be made and client authors can modify their clients when they have time). I was disappointed to find there are no longer any servers using the Alternate set, and as I know PM, BT and I put ALOT of effort into creating a coherant and pleasing set it was very down heartening to find no one even uses it. Peterm is away, and his server is no longer active, every other server is running the standard set. Whether this is because: Admins don't know how to install the alternate set Admins can't be bothered Admins don't like it Admins wouldn't mind supporting both but are preferenced towards standard Admins don't use CVS (see the first point) Admins have tried it, but got an overall response to change to standard again. I can't say. None the less I know I prefered the alternate set, and this leads me to believe other players may enjoy the crossfire experience more if they were able to use these images. I ask if anyone on the dev team is interested in finally releasing the alternate set, which (after looking at the standard set) is in much more coherant form. I wish I were able to do this, but I don't have the time nor skill to do so effectively. To anyone who wants to try it, the process goes like this.. download the cvs arch alternate_images run the program filename_changer create a link in crossfire/lib/ from alternate_images to crossfire/lib/alternate_images make collect make install then run the server, the images should be alternate. Unfortunetly there is currently no other way to view them (no servers running it). regretfully, dnh (Darth_bob)