I picked up the SDL client from /~michtoen (thanks) and can fire it up - but how can I change the server list - it seems to only pick up localhost or the metaserver. There is no where I can see to edit in my crossfire server address. Is the SDL client the main push now, how close is it to working? The DX client is really tickin me off (the cache and DX is buggy for me in general) and I need a good, simple to install client for Win32 if I expect to lure people into playing. Also what is the deal with the ISO arches vs the regular arches? I have been working on a friend of mine to help out with some graphics but don't want them all to be obsolete due to format changes in the near future or unusable since the ISO are not being pushed for some time. (I did make an pretty crystal ball, but gave up on spiffin up the poor pirates - I am not an artist). I noticed that lots of the ISO arches were the same as the .clsc. (clasic vs base?) arch images. There did not seem to be a whole lot of ISO in the set up on michtoen's directories. Is there a more complete ISO somewhere? Yadda Yadda - anyway I like the cartoony arches - I would like to see more in this vein (the Wraith is great). Too bad they are being depriciated but I can see the need for visual consistancy. Anyway that's it for today - thanks -Todd