[CF-Devel] Floors / walls and archetypes

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Nicolas Weeger wrote:

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      I agree there: map building is allowed in specific places only.
     
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      I was asking about detecting floors/walls in general. If the map is 
     
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      specific, then specific flags can, and probably must, be used on 
     
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      walls/floors to indicate where you can build. Maybe using the FLAG or 
     
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      WALL tags in define.h? <grin>
     
     
  Or appropriate floor building objects or whatever (eg, imagine a map you start 
out with special floor builder objects.  You buy 'tokens', and when you drop 
them on a space, different things show up (wall token, marble floor token, etc). 
You could also have a 'this space is finished token'.)

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      About 'blocked' view, I don't know if they are required or not around 
     
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      walls (so xray has something to see behind the wall). That's something I 
     
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      can't tell, don't know the code enough right now.
     
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      But if they are required, then for building you should be able to mess 
     
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      with them...
     
     
  This is a bit trickier.  Because you have some objects, like the 'swall' 
archetypes, which are the jail type walls.  These block passage, but don't block 
the view.  However, once again, they should probably be considered walls.

  The simple definition of a wall is something that you can't pass through, and 
line of sight isn't important.

  But that will also get blurred that if in the future, more refinement on 
movement types are added (Eg, no walk, no fly, no spell, etc through spaces). 
Something like the swall, while blocking fly/walk, should perhaps allow spells, 
eg, burning hands through it would make sense.


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      Actually you can figure building maps in two ways: start from big empty 
     
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      map, and can't remove outter walls, thus messing with blocking view 
     
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      isn't required. Or the opposite, start with small room and dig walls to 
     
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      make room.
     
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      That is, either build on an outside map, or dig in a hole :)
     
     
  Well, I'd think the former is easier.  Because the idea of adding new walls is 
probably a bit more palatable then trying to figure out what walls to remove. 
Just from a movement standpoint, you can't stand on top of a wall, so you need 
to deal with directions and so forth to remove walls.  However, you can stand on 
top of an empty space.

  But also it means you can start out with 'mostly' empty maps, with perhaps 
some special section walled off (say special teleporter or something).  If you 
can only add walls, you then can't get access to that teleporter until you pay 
whatever some of money.  But if you can remove them, then you need to put in 
special indicators of 'don't remove these walls'.





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