Leaf, mwedel. I recently got addicted to gmane :-) saves me a lot of bandwidth to download more p0^W^W^Wplay crossfire. Would you be opposed to having the main crossfire lists (crossfire, crossfire-maps, crossfire-cvs) to gmane? If you give the ok, I'm fine with going to http://gmane.org/subscribe.php and doing the bureaucracy; or you may do it yourself, if you want control over descriptions and whatnot. best, Lalo Martins -- So many of our dreams at first seem impossible, then they seem improbable, and then, when we summon the will, they soon become inevitable. -- http://www.laranja.org/ mailto: lalo at laranja.org pgp key: http://garfield.laranja.org/~lalo/gpgkey-signed.asc GNU: never give up freedom http://www.gnu.org/