[crossfire] Re: [Crossfire-devel] Made a CVS upload error:
/maps-bigworld/unlinked/mlab-devel/mlab-devel.tar.gz
Mitch Obrian
mikeeusaaa at yahoo.com
Sat Oct 1 14:09:01 CDT 2005
Let us free our memory of merging the rest of mlab, it
just seems to become a huge discussion for whatever
reasons.
So have any quest ideas for azamuindo? I need someone
who has a good grasp on japanese lore to give me some
ideas.
--- Mitch Obrian <
mikeeusaaa at yahoo.com
> wrote:
>
If you don't want mlab then fine. I am _not_ going
>
to
>
change for you, just as you are _not_ going to
>
change
>
for me.
>
>
--- Mark Wedel <
mwedel at sonic.net
> wrote:
>
>
> Mitch Obrian wrote:
>
> > For all other maps sans mlab I follow the map
>
> guide.
>
> > However mlab was started way before these, thus
>
it
>
> > uses the flatdirectory structure so it stays
>
> working.
>
> > I've seen maps break many times before,
>
including
>
> my
>
> > tavern when it was uploaded to cvs originally.
>
>
>
> The issue is that there seems to be no work on
>
> your part to move it into the
>
> proper directory layout.
>
>
>
> If there was some progess being made in going to
>
a
>
> non flat structure,
>
> wouldn't be a big deal.
>
>
>
> >
>
> > Why must there be contoversy just over a file
>
> system?
>
>
>
> Ask yourself the same question - why can't you
>
fix
>
> them so they aren't in a
>
> flat directory.
>
>
>
> >
>
> > If I can't upload my maps to CVS where do I back
>
> them
>
> > up to? Are they that worthless? I do a fair
>
amount
>
> of
>
> > CF work in arches and non-mlab maps, could I
>
have
>
> > alittle slack? Why is there opposistion just
>
> because I
>
> > put the maps in their own flatlevel dir?
>
>
>
> Sourceforge and the crossfire distribution in
>
> particular is not meant to
>
> provide a backup service for people.
>
>
>
> There are standard practices for a reason. The
>
> second exceptions start
>
> getting made for one person, the next person shows
>
> up and says 'well, you did it
>
> for him, why not for me'. And figuring out what
>
> rules to break for who then
>
> leads to a mess of problems.
>
>
>
> >
>
> > The reasoning that mlab doesn't even deserve to
>
be
>
> in
>
> > CVS is very alienating, I've worked years on
>
> theses
>
> > maps. I work nearly constantly on maps for CF.
>
>
>
> I don't think I said it doesn't deserve to be in
>
> CVS. I've just said that if
>
> it is in CVS, it should follow proper standards.
>
>
>
> >
>
> > Mlab could be intergrated into CF-proper right
>
now
>
> if
>
> > I was just given the OK. If an exception to the
>
> dir
>
> > rule was made.
>
> >
>
> > I though after being involved in CF this long
>
the
>
> > controversy was over and I could develop as a
>
> regular
>
> > without asking about every change. I uploaded
>
mlab
>
> so
>
> > it would be with CF, so if my computers go down
>
my
>
> > years of work are not lost. Sure one can say "go
>
> find
>
> > some other place to back up to" but... that's
>
> > basically telling the person to screw off; their
>
> work
>
> > is of little value.
>
>
>
> Simple solution is that if you make the
>
directory
>
> structure follow the proper
>
> naming, it could be an official part of the map
>
> distribution.
>
>
>
> The only issue is that your completely unwilling
>
> to do that. Some people have
>
> even started the work to integrate your maps with
>
> proper naming structure, but
>
> you continue to keep going with yours (so that
>
even
>
> those get updated).
>
>
>
> Sure, we could make an exception. Or you could
>
> just follow the rules. The
>
> fact that your not willing to make any effort to
>
do
>
> so doesn't give me any
>
> reason whatever on why I should bend the rules for
>
> you.
>
>
>
>
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