From puff at albatross.pond.sub.org Sun Mar 5 13:13:47 2023 From: puff at albatross.pond.sub.org (puff at albatross.pond.sub.org) Date: Sun, 05 Mar 2023 20:13:47 +0100 Subject: [crossfire] Back after into crossfire Message-ID: <87o7p7ypsk.fsf@albatross.pond.sub.org> Hi all, I haven't played crossfire for years (more than 20, I think), old timers may remember me as Anvil, the berserker orc and a dragon named Puff. Recently I tried it again and got hooked almost immediately again. I play a dragon on crowcastle and two characters on invidious2.meflin.net, on of them being Anvil reborn as a follower of Valkyrie. I saw that crossfire.metalforge.net runs a quite low version number. Is that because players there don't want to lose their high-level characters due to an incompatible update? Now some observations I made: 1. The inventory weight of half-orcs characters is always shown as -0.0/x, except right after loading. As soon as I pick or drop anything, it's broken again. My dwarf is not affected and I confirmed with some temporary characters that it is indeed always broken for half-orcs and okay for dwarfs. 2. On invidious2.meflin.net, possible since the latest update, even fully identified objects are shown as magic. This is probably intended, but one problem is that with this change, equipped objects are no longer shown in bold, unless they are non-magic. This is quite annoying, when you want to switch rings and only the small (worn) marker shows you which are currently equipped. 3. The goblin quest (first of Scorn nobility) sometimes does not reset for days. I suspect that it is liked to one character camping in Scorn. But while the camper obviously prevents Scorn itself from resetting, it shouldn't affect the quest. 4. Rather an oddity, but I wonder if it is really intended that while the library in Navar is basically a copy of the one in Scorn, it is not alit. 5. Note sure whether I simply overlook something, but I found no way to enter the snake pit in Lake Country. I always get pushed back by the tower when trying to enter it via the mountains, but the way through the swamp only gets me to the tower. Two points regarding experience: At one point I found that my dragon monk was level 4 at sense curse and level 14 at sense magic. Is there a good reason, why sense magic gives so much more points? Also, for a high level character, these skills are rather annoying, but there is no way to switch them off. I started doing sense magic before identifying objects, to avoid accumulating even more points. Wouldn't it make sense to not give any points for sensing magic or curse when a character fully identies an object? I like the fact that skill-identifying now works on a per-object base for stacks. But the result is a bit drastic for arrows and bolts since you can easily walk out of a dungeon carrying more than a thousand arrows if you auto-pick them. I suggest reducing the points for identifying arrows and bolts by at least a factor of 10. Finally a question: When I do perceive self with my dragon, it shows "ability levels", based on the levels I grew up with which metabolism. But what is the effect of these levels? It took me quite some time even to figure out that a certain metabolism meant that it is easier to get resistancy of that type. Perhaps this information could be added to the books in the dragon guilds in Scorn and Navar. Regards, Anvil/Puff From leaf at real-time.com Mon Mar 6 00:18:57 2023 From: leaf at real-time.com (Rick Tanner) Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2023 00:18:57 -0600 Subject: [crossfire] Back after into crossfire In-Reply-To: <87o7p7ypsk.fsf@albatross.pond.sub.org> References: <87o7p7ypsk.fsf@albatross.pond.sub.org> Message-ID: On 3/5/23 1:13 PM, puff at albatross.pond.sub.org wrote: > > I saw that crossfire.metalforge.net runs a quite low version number. Is > that because players there don't want to lose their high-level > characters due to an incompatible update? Metalforge has not been upgraded due to incompatible content such as guilds, apartment files, and some aspects of player files between it's version and the current development tree. http://www.metalforge.net/compatibility/ From leaf at real-time.com Mon Mar 6 00:20:38 2023 From: leaf at real-time.com (Rick Tanner) Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2023 00:20:38 -0600 Subject: [crossfire] Back after into crossfire In-Reply-To: <87o7p7ypsk.fsf@albatross.pond.sub.org> References: <87o7p7ypsk.fsf@albatross.pond.sub.org> Message-ID: <73630dad-55ff-3c15-aece-9656ed11fbc4@real-time.com> On 3/5/23 1:13 PM, puff at albatross.pond.sub.org wrote: > > 4. Rather an oddity, but I wonder if it is really intended that while > the library in Navar is basically a copy of the one in Scorn, it is not > alit. That is a map and/or design bug :-/ From leaf at real-time.com Mon Mar 6 00:22:08 2023 From: leaf at real-time.com (Rick Tanner) Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2023 00:22:08 -0600 Subject: [crossfire] Back after into crossfire (spoiler warning) In-Reply-To: <87o7p7ypsk.fsf@albatross.pond.sub.org> References: <87o7p7ypsk.fsf@albatross.pond.sub.org> Message-ID: <979b87f6-fb94-6a5e-566a-899a93723f6c@real-time.com> On 3/5/23 1:13 PM, puff at albatross.pond.sub.org wrote: > > 5. Note sure whether I simply overlook something, but I found no way to > enter the snake pit in Lake Country. I always get pushed back by the > tower when trying to enter it via the mountains, but the way through the > swamp only gets me to the tower. Spoiler warning: There is another way to enter the map and it takes some searching to find it. From leaf at real-time.com Wed Mar 29 16:38:58 2023 From: leaf at real-time.com (Rick Tanner) Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2023 16:38:58 -0500 Subject: [crossfire] Back after into crossfire In-Reply-To: <87o7p7ypsk.fsf@albatross.pond.sub.org> References: <87o7p7ypsk.fsf@albatross.pond.sub.org> Message-ID: <18bef0ee-23c3-a1e2-2bed-18f990fb11c5@real-time.com> On 3/5/23 1:13 PM, puff at albatross.pond.sub.org wrote: > > 4. Rather an oddity, but I wonder if it is really intended that while > the library in Navar is basically a copy of the one in Scorn, it is not > alit. This issue was addressed and committed back to the map code base. Commit [ff6493] Remove outdoor setting for Navar Central Library (navar_city/misc/library) map https://sourceforge.net/p/crossfire/crossfire-maps/ci/ff6493522e7734c48fc61c3f3c9a2ed44a93c43d/ Thank you for pointing out this odd issue.