With the release of 1.0, I expect public CF servers to start to pop-up "all" over the place. Talking on irc philc said a list where all the admins of the public CF servers would be subscribed would be helpful in disseminating info amongst the admins and the user base. I agree and the below mailing list is the result. https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/crossfire-admin If you are an admin (wannabe admin :-) please subscribe to the above list. I see this list as being a place where admins can discuss issues on RUNNING a crossfire server. I still think crossfire-list would be where general discussion happens, where user comments/dicussion happens, etc.. -- Bob Tanner < tanner at real-time.com > | Phone : (952)943-8700 http://www.mn-linux.org | Fax : (952)943-8500 Key fingerprint = 6C E9 51 4F D5 3E 4C 66 62 A9 10 E5 35 85 39 D9