[CF-Devel] RE: few things (Weapons stuff and PR)

[Michael Toennies]

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      Peter Mardahl wrote:
     
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      > > As I have said to Peterm on many occasions, I would really
     
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      love to see an
     
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      > > archery caste and haved made alot of changes to archery to
     
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      make the caste
     
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      > > "worth while" as archery was so poor at the time Peter felt
     
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      there little
     
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      > > point in such a caste. I am quite happy to draw up graphics
     
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      for an archer,
     
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      > > and having unlimited quivers would be one of the best things
     
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      archery could
     
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      > > have currently. On the same theme, I believe we should split
     
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      missile weapons
     
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      > > into, throwing and archery. Firing a bow is VERY different to
     
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      throwing a
     
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      > > dagger let me assure you.
     
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      > Here we've got this realism problem again.  Yeah, it's more realistic.
     
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      > Yeah, it's more stuff for the player (and us coders) to manage.
     
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      > Maybe it's worth doing, but I don't think so.  And if they both go
     
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      > into the physical experience category, I can find NO reason to
     
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      split them.
     
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      > Who throws stuff anyway?
     
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       You could part archery into the ability based category.  Not
     
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      sure if that would
     
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      be good or not.
     
     
Hm, this will effect game play, but not the handling/damage problem we have.

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       There are certainly lots of way to make archery more potent.  An
     
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      archer class
     
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      could do more damage as they gain levels (1 dam/level when using a bow or
     
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      something, up to a maximum point), the ability to make good
     
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      arrows as needed, or
     
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      so on.
     
     

Thats the way i think about: Not make mashine gun shots. Its hard to hit a
monster correct with a bow from distance (if it is a dangerous monster).

In my opinion, a bow fighter should have the same damage list like a guy
with
a holy servant or a avatar (with god spells) or fireball or someting (as
mage).

Talking about game play means, giving hin the same potential. Means, killing
a
skull with the same effort as a mage/priest with same equipment/level.

This will only work, if you kill then greater monster with 2-3 shots. You
will then
make a lot of more damage like with hand, but you must do more for it. The
'real'
balance is to count the dead monster of level x in time y with used
equipment z.

If you think so, you must do a lot of damage with bow, because hand to hand
with run mode
is faster and spells has more area effects.

If you can make the 'kill ratio' equal to fighter/spell, you has bring the
bow back in game.

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       The problem is how to do that and still keep some things
     
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      balanced (ie, if you
     
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      add a lot more good arrows, other classes could get them also).
     
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       Probably the best way to make archery better would be to have
     
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      arrows with spell
     
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      effects - ie, you fire an arrow of fireball, and any kills go to
     
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      your archery
     
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      skill category.  But once again, if those arrows are readily available, it
     
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      doesn't help the archery class. It also sort of reduces the
     
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      necessity of the
     
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      mage and other classes.
     
     
Well, be a bow man is a kind of game playing. It will never make spell
caster unnecessary.
As priest you has all the healing/cure stuff, as mage you has much more
other spells, like
fireball or snowstorm. No, it will give an alternative, it will not bring
other races/chars down.



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