on Wed, 13 Sep 2000 Pertti Karppinen wrote: > > I propose to change 1) 2) 5) and 6) into artifacts which are very > > powerful but which do NOT grant immunities, such as the things in > > my FireTemple finale map. > > ... > It seems to Me that changing these artifacts to have no immunities > but to still be desireable is a lot of work. I mean, I don't think > I would like to meet mr. evil master to get a cloak that didn't give > magic immunity. Or Eureca without a chance to get white dragon scale > mail. This is absolutely true. It´s already possible to raise all stats to 30 with the present mapset. As for the current situation, there´s not much left to make an artifact desireable except for immunities. As you might already know (from hopefully reading my previous posts) I would recommend to remove immunities in general, and to make protections accumulative instead. But if that doesn´t please to the majority of developers, okay, there are other ways to balance things out... I think just removing immunities from the artifacts would only cripple the quests. Nobody would like to play them anymore. And besides, temporare and permanent immunity aren´t that much of a difference. Immune is immune, who cares if it would - in theory - end after a while? Potions are easy to get, long before one could even reach for those power-artifacts. Instead, we could make those artifacts hard to get and impossible to pass them to other players (startequip 1). And when I say hard to get, I mean REAL hard. That would require no more than a few map modifications. There are some dangerous attacktypes left after all... The only intolerable fact for me is that getting permanent immunities is such a cakewalk. If one got all the way up to level 110, okay, why shouldn´t one get the permanent immus after a tough battle? By that time, you´ll be tired of drinking hundred potions a day. Life will get a bit easier that´s all. However, I´d still perefer changing the whole protection/immunity concept. Andreas V. -- Sent through GMX FreeMail - http://www.gmx.net