Over the last few months it has become harder and harder to follow the various discussions on this list due to the large number of duplicate messages and "bugs" postings. "Real World" stuff is picking up as well, and I simply no longer have the time to dig through all this stuff, so I will be unsubscribing (as soon as I can find my notes on how to do this (;-)). Assuming the "stuttering list server" bug is eventually fixed, I would like to offer a few other suggestions... 1) Reduce the "bugs" postings to once a week or once every two weeks instead of every day. 2) Set up a separate mailing list (or use some other machanism) for the code patches/updates. Thanks for the discussions. I think Crossfire itself is an impressive piece of work, and hope to come back to it at some point in the future. Frank McKenney Frank McKenney, McKenney Associates Richmond, Virginia / (804) 320-4887 E-mail: frank_mckenney at mindspring.com