Hi! Has the prayer retributive strike been removed from Ruggilli? I have wis 27, wis lvl 40 and grace (on the altar) 602, and didn't get it after praying 20 minutes! Without this prayer, Ruggilli is quite useless, since he has denied turning (->no holy word, banishment etc.). The only effective means to get wis exp is using the avatar (size: 2x2). Bye Jochen -- Nothing is rich but the inexhaustible wealth of nature. She shows us only surfaces, but she is a million fathoms deep. -- Ralph Waldo Emerson --- eMail jochen at suckfuell.net ----- http://www.suckfuell.net/jochen/ --------