Currently gnarg is probably the worst god out there. While in a discussion about it peterm posed the question of whether the attack type poison actually did anything. After some testing I found I couldn't kill an ogre or gnoll with poion even after taking 83 or so hp off it to begin with. Unless I am mistaken this is alittle silly. Using a level 69 physique 110 overall character I couldn't kill a gnoll with the venomtooth's poison. looking at the code, in the function poison_player peterm left this comment, /* peterm: give poisoning some teeth. It should be able to kill things better than it does: damage should be dependent something--I choose to do this: if it's a monster, the damage from the poisoning goes as the level of the monster/2. If anything else, goes as damage. */ Currently I can safely say poison doesn't have teeth, it seems not even the venomtooth has teeth ;). What should we do? I think we need to incorparate level into the poison calculations, any ideas? This should probably changed pretty soon =). dnh