With some fiddling with the x and y stuff I have fixed a bad redraw problem, but still the 1?? and 3?? frames are broken. I have found that they are out of sync. Basically they seem to be running at half or so the animation speed of the rest of the monster, thus they kind of phase in and out of being right. It is as if gryphon and gryphon3 do not have the same anim_speed as the rest of the objects. I don't understand it! there isn't any reference to anim_speed in any of the objects, I am going to try and add some and see what happens =). dnh