[CF List] Experience Categories

[Kimmo Hoikka]

Hi!

To the first message in this thread I just wanted to say that the only 
category I have never (without party cheating) managed to make to level 
110 is mental. Stealing from and singing to calm retributioners and arch 
angels gives really fast exp in agility and personal categories (high 
death rate also :). high level treasure chests in random maps give 
somewhat experience to mental but not with same rate, perhaps the levels 
could be adjusted a bit.

To the personality skills I have an additional idea: the game has a few 
bagpipes, make then give a skill of musicant. also an artifact bagpipe 
or other instrument would be nice that gives some attribute bonus to the 
skill related with personality skills (charisma?) to improve the ability 
to calm monsters with that skill. All skills have related items that 
improve the ability to use that skill, so why not personality skills 
also, perhaps a bullhorn to give oratory/singing a boost also ;). Mental 
is a bit tougher, reading glasses would be a good item to give the 
ability to find traps better and read higher level books, the game also 
needs more high level things for mental skills to get exp. An additional 
mental skill could be telekinesy, moving obstacles and perhaps monsters? 
that could give a good way to get exp as monsters already have levels. 
Moving a big dragon would require high levels but would grants lots of 
exp. This skill would also give interesting new ways of game play... 
Another additional skill idea I have had for a while, handicraft: the 
ability to manufacture items from raw materials. Making containers, 
weapons and armour from leather, wood and iron would be really 
interesting, with better level you would be able to get some bonuses to 
them, lighter weapon, bag of holding, tougher armour, etc. the skill 
would be similar to alchemy so I guess it would not require lots of 
code. If someone gives me the source code for the windows server I could 
code it myself, as I am too lazy to install linux at the moment :(

and for the last thing, why could't someone sing a monster to death? 
Finnish folklore has a guy (väinämöinen) who sang his foes to swamp and 
thus killed them, why couldn't a monster choke to his laughter? ;)


Andreas Vogl wrote:

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     Create a way to sing or steal monsters to death.
     
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     Hopefully that is meant as a joke. I was with you all the
     
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     way up to that point.
     
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     LOL, of course this was meant as a joke! ;)
     
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     I hope nobody would ever seriously want to implement
     
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     what I have written in those last lines.
     
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     Your suggestions on better integrating skills into the game are
     
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     some of the best ideas I've seen here in a long time.  The
     
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     archetypes should allow specifying stealing, singing and hiding
     
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     resistance levels.  That would allow a mapmaker to put items needed
     
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     for solving a dungeon on a powerful monster that is vulnerable to
     
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     stealing or being pacified.  And a mapmaker could make the monsters
     
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     in a particular dungeon have extra difficulty seeing hidden players.
     
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     Yes, this is exactly what I had in mind.
     
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     Special skills do not require special maps.  It does require
     
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     existing maps are adjusted when applicable.  Pirates in a drinking
     
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     area should be particularly vulnerable to singing and oratory.
     
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     That's true. Modifying existing maps is fine and makes a lot
     
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     of sense in this case.
     
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     Andreas
     
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