I bet that Karate was involved, Karate gives you a hitback ability when you get hit. Now and DMs do not take damage but DM's with Karate do hit back. DM's should probably not be set as no_pass since they can walk through players but players cannot walk through them. Maybe it is the alive flag? _______________________________________________ crossfire-devel mailing list crossfire-devel at lists.real-time.com https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/crossfire-devel