Maybe it has > lots of opportunities, but in it's current state it's not even half ready > to consider it worthy to use. Well that's the point isn't it. It is still in development. The old maps are still available and being maintained (although not much is changing on them) and while this happens people who like to play on develpment servers are getting to use/playtest bigworld. I think the real point you allude to is the misconception that crossfire.metalforge.net is a Crossfire stable server - it isn't. It is the primary development/play test server from what I understand. _______________________________________________ crossfire-devel mailing list crossfire-devel at lists.real-time.com https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/crossfire-devel