[CF-Devel] some spells weirdness

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Avion wrote:
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      On April 17, 2004 09:42 pm, Karla Stenger wrote:
     
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     hi all,
     
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     	i'm just posting some weird things players have made me notice today:
     
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     	-the movement of objects caused by spells is also able to move an earth
     
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     wall from it's place, not sure if this one effect is intended, but my logic
     
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     tells me it shouldnt, maybe making the walls weigh more or do a check for
     
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     the object not beeing a wal before pulling it would be nice.
     
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      This is my fault and cone spell knockback changes may be causing effects I 
     
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      didn't anticipate like this.
     
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      I think making the wall weigh more is the proper thing to do as a very 
     
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      powerful spell should IMHO be able to push an earth wall.  If this seems 
     
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      reasonable I'll set walls at the same weight as heavy bolders.
     
     
  My concern here is things like weak walls, which are basically same as 
earthwalls - it doesn't make sense for them to be pushed back (it wouldn't look 
right) - if anything, if there is so much force in the spell, it should end up 
destroying the object.

  Think of those walls you hack through - you start with something like:

--+--

  (+ being the weak portion).  So you are south of that wall, and cast the 
spell, and get something like

   +
-- --

  which would be pretty bizarre looking, and doesn't make a lot of sense (as the 
weak wall itself would still have the crisp lines where it is supposed to meet 
up with the actual wall.  I suppose for those walls, you could set an incredibly 
high weight.

  But it would just seem that if there is something powerful enough to be moving 
a wall back, the wall would get destroyed in teh process (individual bricks 
broken out, or hunks or earth, etc).  So having it destroy earthwalls (or damage 
them) probably makes more sense.


  Just a note - setting a heavy weight on all the earthwalls may create issues 
with some maps - if any maps currently have earthwalls on top of buttons, on the 
basis the earthwall doesn't way much, and thus the button isn't activated, 
setting a heavy weight for the earthwall will change it-  the button would start 
activated.  I don't know if there are any maps like this, but just a consideration.


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