[CF-Devel] More bugs, crashes noted by players

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ERACC wrote:
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      On Wednesday 05 May 2004 01:35
     
     
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      So an item_power of +50 may *not* be the intent? Frankly a +40 to +50
     
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      item is nearly impossible to equip with other good items even at high
     
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      player levels. Two +50 items would make using other equipment
     
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      problematic or impossible, depending on the equipment, even at level
     
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      110+. If the +50 is not intended is there some way that may be
     
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      adjusted down a bit? Maybe so the items are at +30 - +35 or so? That
     
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      would make them more useful and less a curiosity item.
     
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      Example: My character Galahad has a ring of Elrond. As of now Galahad
     
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      is a level 48 human Paladin and has to wear a lot of equipment. I'm
     
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      calculating that to be able to equip that ring with his other good
     
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      equipment, with high item_power values, he will need to be level 80.
     
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      Even then some of his equipment will not be able to be equipped with
     
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      that ring. That makes ring of Elrond only useful to very high level
     
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      players and completely, or nearly, useless for mid-level players.
     
     
  Note that at least in IMO, that is some of the point of item power - to make 
it so that characters can not equip every best item in the game, and have to 
make some choices.  Now some values are probably excessive, and looking at the 
treasure code, it seems to do some odd stuff - instead of just making item power 
additive, it seems to try to figure out what the item_power for the object 
should be based on the enchantments, and that seems wrong.

  As a note, while not really acted on much, I actually think item power can be 
used to make it more flexible for player created items.  Eg, before, the enchant 
armor scrolls were a real bonus, because you could have +4 magic on all your 
items with no drawbacks.  If item_power is properly used, fine, you can have +4 
on all your item, but if each object now comes with a 10 item power (or 
whatever), it quickly becomes less appealing.

  And likewise, this could open it up to let players create rings and whatnot, 
albeit with similar item power drawbacks.



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      I understand the argument. Perhaps hitting a few more squares with a
     
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      cone spell cast in direction 0 would not really be a bad thing. I
     
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      need to try some direction 0 casts with my character poof. How is the
     
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      direction range calculated? What is the curve on that? Knowing that
     
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      will help me see if I agree with 1/4 or 1/3 for the value. :-)
     
     
  It really depends on the spell - you can look at the archetype.  Eg, from the 
spell_burning_hand arc (only relevant fields taken):

level 1
range 5
range_modifier 4

  Range 5 means it starts out going  spaces.  For every 4 levels beyond 1st, it 
goes an additional space (range_modifier), eg, level 5 it goes 6 spaces, level 9 
it goes 7, etc.

  Lets look at spell_dragonbreath:
level 12
range 7
range_modifier 5

  Starts out going 7 spaces.  For every 5 levels beyond 12th, it goes another 
space (8 spaces at 17, 9 spaces at 22, etc).


  Note that it can probably be rightly argued that some of the range and 
range_modifier values are incorrect (eg, dragonbreath should go further than 
burning hands for example).

What probably really needs to be done is write some scripts or update the dump 
code to output the spell information for different levels.

  You can look at dragonbreath and burning_hands arch, and clearly see the 
dragon breath is better in terms of damage, range, etc.  But its a level 12 
spell, so how does burning hands compare when cast by a 12'th level caster.  How 
do the spells compare when cast at a 25th level caster, 50th level caster, etc? 
  I have a feeling if that is done, some adjustments to be made will be pretty 
obvious.

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