On 8/26/05, Anton Oussik < antonoussik at gmail.com > wrote: > And this is what happens when you allow developers from England to > post to the mailing lists ;) It really isn't that hard you know.... an inch is the length from the end of your thumb to the first knuckle. a barlycorn is 1/3rd of an inch. a poppyseed is 1/4 of a barleycorn a hand is 4 inches - this is only really used to measure horses nowadays. a span is 9 inches. a foot is 12 inches. a cubit is 18 inches, or 2 spans , this has fallen out of favour as a measuring unit in recent years owing to the collapse of the roman empire where it was widely used. a yard is 3 feet, or 4 spans, or 2 cubits - this is about the length of one pace, a fathom is 6 feet, or 2 yards - this is the length of a mans arms outstretched, it is often used to measure depths, because of how an anchor chain on a boat is payed out, each time the sailor grabs another part of the chain, that is a fathom. a rod is 16.5 feet - this is sometimes called a perch. a chain is 11 fathoms, or 4 rods (except for the chains that aren't, but no one really uses them anymore.) a chain is subdivided into 100 links, each of which are about 7 inches, 2 barleycorns and 3 poppyseeds (1 poppyseed short of 2 hands), 10 chains or 40 rods make a furlong, - this is how far can be ploughed before needing a rest. 8 furlongs make a mile about 3 miles make a league (depending on where you are, and sometimes the terrain and weather), which is an hours walk. also you have an acre, which is an area of land 1 chain by one furlong, which is the area a man can plow in a day. See, nice and simple. > Yes, your estimates seem very good. If others agree it would probably > be a good idea to document all this somewhere and update the signs and > so on in the game and maps. updating the maps isn't too hard, in fact the following is a diff that does just that. (I haven't included much context here, partially for brevity, partially because anyone playing with these maps in the editor will probably break this diff anyway.) I'm tempted to reduce the accuracy of some more of these, express them in furlongs, or maybe even miles (or leagues), since I doubt anyone seriously goes around counting the squares, the screens maybe. Index: scorn/taverns/goths =================================================================== RCS file: /cvsroot/crossfire/maps-bigworld/scorn/taverns/goths,v retrieving revision 1.14 diff -C1 -r1.14 goths *** scorn/taverns/goths 6 Jun 2005 03:14:31 -0000 1.14 --- scorn/taverns/goths 26 Aug 2005 21:27:14 -0000 *************** *** 4890,4892 **** It's almost directly to the northeast of Scorn - about ! 400 miles. Easiest way to get there is to take the north road outside of Scorn. Once you get past the --- 4890,4892 ---- It's almost directly to the northeast of Scorn - about ! 40 furlongs. Easiest way to get there is to take the north road outside of Scorn. Once you get past the *************** *** 4895,4897 **** a river, just start going north - keep going north past ! the like it flows from - about 75 miles. The castle is in a valley with some hills and woods. --- 4895,4897 ---- a river, just start going north - keep going north past ! the like it flows from - about 9 furlongs. The castle is in a valley with some hills and woods. Index: world/world_105_115 =================================================================== RCS file: /cvsroot/crossfire/maps-bigworld/world/world_105_115,v retrieving revision 1.34 diff -C1 -r1.34 world_105_115 *** world/world_105_115 10 Jul 2005 14:43:23 -0000 1.34 --- world/world_105_115 26 Aug 2005 21:27:33 -0000 *************** *** 12393,12397 **** msg ! Santo Dominion - 350 miles north ! Brest - 518 miles south ! Navar City - 948 miles east endmsg --- 12393,12397 ---- msg ! Santo Dominion - 350 chains north ! Brest - 518 chains south ! Navar City - 948 chains east endmsg Index: world/world_107_123 =================================================================== RCS file: /cvsroot/crossfire/maps-bigworld/world/world_107_123,v retrieving revision 1.18 diff -C1 -r1.18 world_107_123 *** world/world_107_123 16 Jun 2005 16:28:41 -0000 1.18 --- world/world_107_123 26 Aug 2005 21:27:47 -0000 *************** *** 5656,5659 **** msg ! Brest - 3 miles south ! Lake Country - 241 miles east endmsg --- 5656,5659 ---- msg ! Brest - 3 chains south ! Lake Country - 241 chains east endmsg Index: world/world_121_116 =================================================================== RCS file: /cvsroot/crossfire/maps-bigworld/world/world_121_116,v retrieving revision 1.13 diff -C1 -r1.13 world_121_116 *** world/world_121_116 15 Mar 2005 21:44:51 -0000 1.13 --- world/world_121_116 26 Aug 2005 21:28:02 -0000 *************** *** 8323,8325 **** Welcome to Navar City. ! To go to Darcap, take the road north 1065 miles. To go to Brest or Scorn, take the road south. --- 8323,8325 ---- Welcome to Navar City. ! To go to Darcap, take the road north 107 furlongs. To go to Brest or Scorn, take the road south. Index: world/world_116_102 =================================================================== RCS file: /cvsroot/crossfire/maps-bigworld/world/world_116_102,v retrieving revision 1.8 diff -C1 -r1.8 world_116_102 *** world/world_116_102 17 Jul 2005 22:43:26 -0000 1.8 --- world/world_116_102 26 Aug 2005 21:28:14 -0000 *************** *** 7070,7072 **** Welcome to Darcap ! Navar City: 1065 miles southeast. endmsg --- 7070,7072 ---- Welcome to Darcap ! Navar City: 107 furlongs southeast. endmsg