Cave's meta server system is very good. You cannot defeat a DDoS, but this gives us abit better chance. I do not agree at all with admining the metametaserver as some suggested. That way unpopular people's (like me) servers would not make the list unless they kissed the asses of the admins. IE: "We shouldn't include him, he's and anti-women's-rights terrorist" etc. Just let everything be automatic. Also I sugest not nitpicking the thing, we should use what we have... and with this thing we can put it on almost _ANY_ webserver. That means we can host some metaservers on the biggest pipes available (webhosting sites). If they want to DDoS CF then... well they'll have to take out 1/2 the internet. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new Resources site http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/