[crossfire] Re: New movement code.

[Mitch Obrian]

Yay, a let's break everything by allowing passage
through walls idea!

Crossfire should NEVER allow passage throug no_pass
tiles. No Pass means no pass, walls shoud _always_ be
no_pass (by default). Don't make the maps worthless
please.

--- Brendan Lally <
     brenlally at gmail.com
     > wrote:

>
      On 10/19/05, Anton Oussik <
      antonoussik at gmail.com
      >
     >
      wrote:
     >
      > When activated the wraith becomes invisible,
     >
      stealthy, can move
     >
      > through walls, and can not cast spells, or hold
     >
      items in inventory
     >
      > (except invisible ones of course), The only attack
     >
      then avaliable is
     >
      > wraith touch, which deals ghosthit, depletion,
     >
      drain, and life
     >
      > slealing.
     >
      >
     >
      > Without clothes wraiths are not very strong, so I
     >
      do not see how it
     >
      > will make them overpowered. Running for the
     >
      nearest wall will often be
     >
      > the best choice, only preying on the weak, but
     >
      that will be the only
     >
      > way of surviving, since you would die from three
     >
      hits by a powerful
     >
      > monster, if you can not life steal them as fast as
     >
      they are hitting
     >
      > you.
     >
     
     >
      Will direct attacks hit wraith stood in a wall (like
     >
      they do in ADOM
     >
      with ghosts)?
     >
     
     >
      Will rings/amulets remain wearable?
     >
     
     >
      I'm inclined to say that at least there should be a
     >
      /big/ hit points
     >
      penalty as well (maybe 50% - though with a small ac
     >
      bonus too ?)
     >
     
     >
      > While in this mode the wraith ca not pick anything
     >
      up, or interact
     >
      > with the environment, like push switches, buttons,
     >
      or anything like
     >
      > that.
     >
     
     >
      Ok, so their weight would have to be zero too.
     >
     
     >
      Would you change the face as well, to give some clue
     >
      they are in this mode?
     >
     
     >
      > This would also mean players can not take stuff
     >
      out of treasure
     >
      > rooms... they can get in, fly though it, and then
     >
      walk out again
     >
      > leaving treasure behind. They would not be able to
     >
      steal it without
     >
      > completing the quest.
     >
     
     >
      You need to deal with switching out of this mode
     >
      inside the treasure
     >
      room (you try to adress this later)
     >
     
     >
      That could still lead to lots of potential spoilers
     >
      (you could observe
     >
      the boulder layout and infer information from that)
     >
     
     >
      > Also you should not be able to go into void
     >
      squares to get to other
     >
      > "floors" or mechanic sections of the map. You
     >
      should be able to apply
     >
      > exits though, to get around between maps.
     >
     
     >
      not all boulder layouts are seperated by squares
     >
      with no tiles on.
     >
     
     >
      > There is howerver a case of the player going into
     >
      the mode sneaking up
     >
      > to a switch opening treasure room, and then taking
     >
      it out. The only
     >
      > way out of this I see is to only provide one way
     >
      of leaving the mode
     >
      > once entered: by visiting some well defined set of
     >
      points (like an
     >
      > altar of devourers, or a graveyard to posess a new
     >
      body). This way it
     >
      > will be impossible for a player to either cheat in
     >
      the quest or help
     >
      > other players cheat.
     >
     
     >
      Alter of devourers might work, but there are maps
     >
      that have alters in
     >
      dungeons, and these might get placed in areas where
     >
      a player could get
     >
      stuck.
     >
     
     >
      Also what about a wraith that doesn't worship
     >
      devourers?
     >
     
     >
      There are similar issues with graveyard placement,
     >
      plus it is a little
     >
      illogical that a graveyard corpse should work, but a
     >
      'fresh' one
     >
      should not.
     >
     
     >
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