[crossfire] Re: New movement code.

[Mitch Obrian]

Ethereal travel should fail where Dimention door
fails:
No magic and can't see through areas.

(If I have a wall one cant see through it should fail,
same if I have a wall that has no magic set on it or a
no magic tile there).

--- Mark Wedel <
     mwedel at sonic.net
     > wrote:

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        Rivers are a messy case.  Blocking swimming and
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      flying over them doesn't make 
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      a lot of sense if you can fly over lots of other
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      stuff.
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        While they are often used to protect areas, I'd
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      make the case that in most of 
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      the bigworld map, allowing people to fly/swim over
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      them wouldn't be that big a 
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      deal - sure, there is a bridge down a ways, but
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      letting someone fly over 
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      upstream shouldn't be a problem.
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        After all, it then makes zero sense that if I
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      follow a river down to the sea, 
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      I can swim or fly over the shallow water to get
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      around the river, but not over 
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      the river itself.
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        That said, there are certainly a few places where
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      it really needs to block 
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      movement.  The problem is that in many of those, it
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      can look artificial (look, a 
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      nice ring of river).
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        As a note, and this includes ethereal travel, any
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      changes to the blocking of 
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      spaces has to be done on a map by map/space by space
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      basis.  IF we change the 
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      archetypes to suddenly allow swimming and flying
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      over shallow water, I think 
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      we'll find many maps just got broken.  Same for
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      ethereal travel through walls.
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        That said, I could certainly see someone writing
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      scripts (or updating the java 
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      editor) with something like 'allow ethereal travel
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      on walls on this map' or 
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      something, so that its just a simple 'is it ok to do
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      on this map or not' type of 
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      update.
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        But I do think giving someone permanent or at will
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      ethereal travel will be 
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      very powerful, even with some of the limitations. 
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      The fact is that lots of maps 
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      have enough wall space where an ethereal creature
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      could effectively hide out 
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      away from any attackers.   I'd certainly much rather
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      temporary items (potions) 
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      be added first and see what that breaks.
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        I'm also a bit reluctant to add tons of new
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      movement types.  After all, at 
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      some level, the movement type is the same, what is
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      different is that some things 
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      may move through spaces better than others.
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        So rather than adding a desert movement type (or
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      camel), I'd rather desert 
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      have a high enough slow move penalty to make it very
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      slow to move through, and 
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      then give camels some ability to ignore that (built
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      in desert movement skill or 
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      something).
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        Similar for forest and jungles - I'm not sure I
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      want a new movement type, vs 
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      making it painfully slow enough you have the
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      appropriate skills.
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