[CF-Devel] Sorig

[Andreas Vogl]

Michael T. wrote:

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      I never think about it, but i build now a new char and play a bit.
     
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      I changed to god Sorig and then i see that sorig is now pretty useless.
     
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      Because the PR system, protection spells are now VERY important.
     
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      I think no one want play without them. Well, a sorig follower can't cast
     
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      a single protection spell.
     
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      I really love sorig. He was a nice strong god, without big advantages
     
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      and without big drawbacks. Because prot. spells are not so useful befor
     
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      PR, no one notice that they are denied.
     
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      Remember his drawbacks he still has
     
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      - no enemy race
     
     
This is not too much of a drawback...

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      - he don't uncurse! (major drawback for uncurse stat potions until you
     
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        max out)
     
     
...but that one is nasty. Sorig followers always need a second char to
uncurse potions. A pain indeed, and no point (-> second char does the job).
I think the effect is caused by denied turning?
Maybe we should make all gods able to uncurse potions, independant
from any denied spellpaths?

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      - he don't restore depletion. (i think so? or it is very hard?)
     
     
Not sure. And not too important.

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      Also, some spells are denied or harder.
     
     
Denied turning: no holy word.

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      So, Sorig is really not to powerful. His good powers are:
     
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      - good avatar
     
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      - good special spells in high levels (i think we can forget this as
     
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        good power until you lost them when you change gods. Its not the big
     
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        deal to change gods twice to collect spells).
     
     
You're wrong on this one. Players loose all god-given spells on conversion.
This has been done quite some time ago.
However, diseases have been toned down and should not be the ultimate
advantage anymore.

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      - elec prot/immun as power
     
     
This still *is* Sorigs main advantage. Sorigs holy possession grants
elec +95% (adding on equipment!). It's freakin hard to get elec res. 95%
by equipment, and potions don't surpass 90%.
Elec is not as important as fire/cold, but think of places like the lair
of ancient blue dragons...

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      As you see, he is balanced in my opinion. Also, he is a perfect
     
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      alternative to mostrai for more experienced players.
     
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      But with protection spell denied you can now forget him, he is really
     
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      not longer a alternative.
     
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      So i prefer:
     
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      - make prot. spells not denied, make them perhaps harder to cast
     
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       (more grace)
     
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      This will bring him to old game balance.
     
     
Hm, hm... "old game balance"? - Sorig used to be unbalanced. =)
However, I think setting sorig to "repelled protection" might be
reasonable.
The first day with PR, I switched to Mostrai - due to protection
spells. And due to Mostrais blessing/holy possession (fire +30).
So there is some truth in Michael's point.


Generally about Gods: The new god intervention code is in cvs.
The god's arches have been split up into different "property arches"
like avatar, granted spells/items, etc.
All prerequesites for gods re-balancing seem to be completed now.


Andreas V.