Kimmo Hoikka writes: > > You might also be lucky enough to find some generous soul who will > > give you an appropriate artifact when you're starting out, or create a > > party with you so you can gain some levels where you're lacking. If > > someone does this for you, remember it when you replay those quests > > and start getting duplicate artifacts so that you can help the next > > guy. > > Damn you to encourage people to play like that. This kind of > behavior has lead to that all good artifacts have been downsized > and made useless (like white dragon scale mail) because people keep > giving them to newbies. If you get gift artifacts you never learn > to get them yorself and never learn to play the game. I encourage > people not to accept any gift artifacts, since they make the people > lazy on learning the real tricks and methods required to play the > game. I myself have played over 10 chars from beginning to level > 110 in various servers and never too any gift artifacts because its > lame. money is ok to give and also items that can be found from > scorn but anything greater of that really spoils the game. > Dude, it's just a game. Try to remember that before you start damning people for trying to give advice. > For the game it is better to show the quest through where you can > obtain the artifact than to give it as a gift. I am really > disappointed to see people wearing tons of stuff and when you ask > them which quest item is that and that artifact, they just dont > know, someone gave it to them... > You're probably right... Although I don't think having artifacts as a newbie upsets the game balance too much, it does devalue the worth of artifacts in general. Note that in my original post I never suggested artifacts should be a substitute for _real_ experience. In retrospect I think the most valuable thing I ever got from more experienced players was the experience of tagging along with them on quests to see how they handled certain situations, and what tricks they used that I had never thought of. Without that the fact that I was given a Belzebub's Sword as a newbie didn't make a whit of difference. -Andy