Once again good points. I have the pickup problem occur quite often, usually on big stacks. Don't think I have met the Size problems bug you describe. Thew width problem is more than likely the window manager, although I get the same problem in Window Maker. It would be nice for it to sensibly resize so that it attempts to fit as much in as possible before resizing the message box. dnh ps Preston if you can pop into <hash>crossfire on openprojects.net that would be nice, mearly to clarify some of your points.