-- Peter Mardahl < peterm at tonks.EECS.Berkeley.EDU > on 03/06/02 10:00:48 -0800 >> Henric Karlsson wrote: >> >> i wonder if those who claim fireborn are hard to play ever really played >> a fireborn. I made a fireborn character yesterday, devoted myself to >> gorokh and got flaming aura, with fireborns ability to get ac with > > In the early levels, fireborn can be EASIER to play, because you > get a lot of mana and grace. However, fireborn are hurt badly at > high levels because they cannot wear armour or use weapons, > and are thus denied all the protections these normally give. > > The same is true of Quetzalcoatls: they're hozed at high levels, > but strong at low levels. Better way to say it is that you have to be more careful at higher levels. Q's are especially tricky -- they can use high-powered weapons that help greatly and w/ sufficient patience can learn some heavy-duty spells. FB's can get 30 pow w/ a +3 ring and still wear another or a talisman for combined free action and whatever you like. Given sufficient protection spells their hight speed and dex make them hard to hit (and Ruggilli makes them more-or-less immune to missiles). Add, say, a ring of free action and amulet of reflect spells and complete immunity to most poison and all fire. You have a pretty secure item. At higher levels w/ good POW you can summon some serious pet monsters or holy creatures. That and ball lightning will take you pretty far (with a few potions of cold resistance for good luck). > > Such are the tradeoffs of these two special races. > >> another somehow absurd thing is mana regeneration increasing food >> consumption. I find it beeing in contradiction with the idea of > > I don't consider this exactly absurd. It's a bit strange, but it's > not so very unreasonable. And it makes all those mana points > which get blown out cost the player something, which is good. > High mana regen == high exertion == high food use. Put it another way, casting all those spells takes energy, which has to come from somewhere. >> magician, beeing strong in mind and usually weak in body; strong muscles >> consume lots of food, but strong mind consumes somewhat same as a weak >> mind. the stronger the magician is the more he needs to eat? I recall >> very few fantacy worlds where magicians are eating all the time, >> ususally they are described as spending more time with books while the >> barbarians and fighters eat and practice. > > We have no obligation to follow everyone else's lead. Furthermore, we > should not, or we're just reimplimenting the same damn game. We should > only consider this issue in and of itself and its impact on the game. > I think it is a positive thing to require food use in order to regenerate > mana. Think of spells as an expenditure of personal energy. At that point the high food use tends to make sense. -- Steven Lembark 2930 W. Palmer Workhorse Computing Chicago, IL 60647 +1 800 762 1582