[CF-Devel] unique monsters in the arches (Re: Ice Castle)

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Andreas Vogl wrote:
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      Mark Wedel wrote:
     
     
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      Actually I'd love to make take them out of the arches and make
     
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      them map-customized.
     
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      The reason why I can't do this is that I have no good trust
     
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      in the way map-customized monsters are processed.
     
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      You know that map-attributes in monsters get overrided as
     
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      soon as they apply anything. The evil masters use equipment
     
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      for instance, so there is no way around it.
     
     
  Yeah - that is a problem with no really good workaround (other than to set the 
creature not to apply any equipment - if you know what equipment they will have, 
you could in a sense pre-apply those adjustments).

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      It might be possible to insert applied forces to carry some of their
     
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      customized stats, but I have tried that once and had the feeling
     
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      it was not relyable. Is it?
     
     
  It should be reliable.  However, one has to make sure that one sets up the 
force so that it doesn't expire - changing the speed of the force to 0 should do 
that.


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      Second, these monsters need animations and they must be defined
     
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      in the arches. I don't like the idea of weaker versions of
     
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      evil masters either. Evil masters are quest related unique
     
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      monsters. I don't want rooms full of them somewhere else.
     
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      They are not supposed to be like orcs which come in all variants.
     
     
  Fair enough - I could see the same thing with probably some of the artifact 
armor/weapons - you need an archetype for the image/animation, and you'd still 
not want look alike items all over the place - it sort of reduces the 'wow - 
I've never seen that before - I wonder what it is'.


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      For one thing, I could set their names in the arches to something
     
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      like "Don't use this!", and override it with the real name on maps.
     
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      Maybe that's a dirty solution but at least there would be a hint
     
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      not to use them.
     
     
  Perhaps a better, but not quite as obvious method, would be to put some info 
into the message of the object, like:

msg
this is a quest related artifact.  Do not re-use it without prior
discussion on the mailing lists.
It is current found on map A, coordinats x,y
endmsg

Or combine that with changing the name.  But it'd be nice to convey where these 
special artifacts currently are found.



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