[CF-Devel] Forgotten child

Fri Oct 3 15:30:53 CDT 2003

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     I really think that the development community has been given a bad

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     reputation lately and from some people who couldn't take the time to do

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     even a basic amount of research.  This problem has nothing to do with

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      I don't understand this. Y'know what I did, for example? I saw things

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      going wrong, asked somebody, and got this mail list. And wrote some

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      mails. Doing research? No, I don't want to do that. I just tell things I

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      think should be told. That's all. I'm a simple player. I have right to

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      raise my voice. You not like it - kick me from the list (if you had the

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      right...).

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     Vanity will get you everywhere ;) In actual fact I was not thinking of 
you when mentioning this, but others who were complaining (on IRC and 
the crossfire forum in actual fact) about percieved issues with 
development prior to your mail.  You certainly have the right to post 
your views but you will also be responed to accordingly.  I personnaly 
have been quite turned off lately by certain people being rude to me 
when I've tried to assist them and have decided to start ignoring such 
messages.  As for telling things you think should be told, that's fine 
too but if you do not take the time to see the issues then you shouldn't 
expect people to take the time to credit your opinions.

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      Well, IMO players should be treated as humans, not as experimental rats.

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      Why is it stupid to think they have the right to know what's going to

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      happen to them? They are humans, they act as they should act. Keeping

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      things secret just to be sure players won't disagree is unfair (and

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      disgusting).

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      Besides, I think informing players _should_ be done properly anyway.

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What was being kept secret?  I don't understand where this hostility is 
coming from.  Nothing was being kept secret from anyone.  No one was 
planning on sneaking out in the middle of the night an deleting your 
player file and there was no conspiracy to mess up players XP on 
Metalforge.  Players using the windows clients have been repeatedly told 
that these are currently unsupported clients.  This is what I meant by 
minimal research.  Aside from having someone sending individual players 
a candy-o-gram as to changes that may or may not take place I cannot see 
how you expect to be informed and at the same time expect to do no research.

To top it all off I think that you enrirely missed the point I was 
making.  I am assuming you are in all cases talking about problems you 
are having on the Metalforge crossfire server.  These issues really have 
nothing to do with development and everything to do with that server.
There are many different crossfire servers with different implemetations 
for differnet audiences.  Rather than scream at the developers it would 
be way more productive to spend some time identifying these servers and 
matching up the audiences to allow players to play the game.
A rocksolid mainstream server running 1.5.0 is not the same as a CVS 
test server or a legacy 1.3.0 server for DX client support (the last 
version to fully support the features of the DX client including the 
image caching).  Players should be informed and consider this when 
deciding what sevrer to play on.  As far as I am aware Metalforge has 
always been a test server (targeting something like a beta level 
functionality) and not a stable server.

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