Magic Schools and skills, Re: [CF-Devel] Bugs on crossfire.metalforge

Fri Oct 17 02:00:02 CDT 2003

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      On Tue, Oct 14, 2003 at 17:12:34 -0400, Todd Mitchell wrote:

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      Actually I like the four schools of magic. It's better to have four

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      skills to compete with others than three. It's just that we need enough

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      (and powerful enough) spells in each school to allow gaining exp in a

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      reasonable way. For summoners it would be enough to tone up the lesser

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      golem and golem a bit in low levels. And sorcerers definitely need a

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      decent level 3 spell to fill the gap until level 5, and then a cone

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      and a ball spell (like fireball or snowstorm) would be useful. Maybe the

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      mana storm and the other mana spells should be moved to the sorcerer

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      school.

  It should probably be noted that the spell stuff as is was basically a first 
pass, so some adjustments are probably in order.

  Giving pyromancers lightning & fire gives them a lot of ability.

  You then have evokers with cold & mana spells.  Which sort of let sorcers with 
the other spells (poison & effect spells).  The problem with effect spells 
(paralyze, slow) is that while they may be useful, they don't gain any 
experience directly.

  Looking at attacktypes, in terms of new spells, one could see adding more to 
physical (cone of shards, eg, physical?)  Could add more acid spells also.

  There coudl certainly be more summoner spells also.  I added the lesser golem 
spell because they needed something at least first level

  One thing that is perhaps missing in the spell code is a 'limit' on how levels 
adjust the spell upwards.

  for example, it could be nice to make that first level golem spell increase 
its hp/duration a bit based on each level.  However, you want to cap that so 
after level 10 in summoning, it doesn't get any more poewrful (otherwise, it 
could be out of whack when scaled up to level 100 for example).

  The other thought is that there are probably enough spells to easily make 3 or 
4 skills viable.  The problem in retrospect is that by grouping them by damage 
type, that left some skills without a lot of spells.

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      An alternative wall spell like "magic fence" could be added for the

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      sorcerer, that looks like a fence, is impassable, cannot be torn down

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      (so you can lock yourself in) or cast through, but vanishes after some

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      time.

  How about this for an idea - spikewall?  Makes a wall of those spikes that 
move up and down?  this would be passable at times, but not others.  Gives a 
wall with phyiscal attacks (and something that makes sense).  Wouldn't require 
any new graphics either.

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      Instead of removing a magic school, we should add more spells, that

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      would make wizardry more interesting.

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      I'm sure most characters would learn yet another magic school for that

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      special powerful spell you can get there. This can even be a valuable

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      goal for players that are high level in the other skills, and as long as

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      your character can learn new things, the game remains interesting.

  Yeah, however, I'd not want to see a bunch of spells that are basically same 
as is now, with different skill/school. Eg, if you give a mage version of 
fireball, its sort of like 'what's the point of different skills then'.  So new 
spell types need to be developed.

  Now in some cases, variations of existing spells could be used to fill gaps 
(more medium power golem or something).

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