On Monday 24 May 2004 10:46 Todd Mitchell wrote: > In real-life (if it even matters) heavy winds cause damage to > property every day - even to the point to tearing the roof off of > buildings and flipping over vehicles so I don't see how it is such > a ridiculous notion - let alone an 'utterly ridiculous' one. I > have been out in a moderate blizzard and believe me it is hard to > move, hard to see and hard to do anything while the freezing wind > and snow whips past. As for fire - even excluding the heat that > much air moving is certainly a force to be considered. More unusual > is that in the game they do *not* push objects IMHO. Anyway I > removed the weights from icestorm and firebreath/burning hands so > they will not use the knockback effect. Windstorm I have left > alone as it *always* used this code in the past and the new wave > spell I have also left alone since no existing maps use it. > As I said before the knockback effect was not new. Perhaps the > move object function is highlighting the problem however in that it > appears to have an paralyzing effect on players in addition to > pushing them. Anyway my mistake was to apply weights to incorporate > a new effect in some existing spells and I have corrected that in > CVS. Actually, I don't have a problem with the effect itself. I have a problem with the fact there are no countermeasures that I can find for it. The idea of these spells pushing players around is not bad. What IS bad is that players have no way to counter it. Someone suggested a new spell to counter pushback. For non-magic players some sort of magic footgear or a magic cloak or an amulet or all the above that counters pushback would be cool. For now, since there is no way to counteract the effect, I agree it should not be there. But if changes could be made to magically reduce or annul the pushback with a spell or item(s) I'd have no objection to having it in the game. It would add another level of challenge. Gene (poof|Galahad) -- Linux era4.eracc.UUCP 2.4.22-28mdkenterprise i686 11:57:42 up 86 days, 5:52, 12 users, load average: 0.07, 0.06, 0.01 ERA Computer Consulting - http://www.eracc.com/ eCS, OS/2, Mandrake GNU/Linux, OpenServer & UnixWare resellers _______________________________________________ crossfire-devel mailing list crossfire-devel at lists.real-time.com https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/crossfire-devel