[CF-Devel] Icestorm - could not move - death

Thu May 27 21:40:30 CDT 2004

Another point: the name of the game isn't realism. Maybe you missed it, but,
besides challenging, the game is supposed to be *fun*. Being killed by an
icestorm gone awry is not. Stupid effect, at best - the new behaviour
cheapens the effect of earth walls, among other spells...

-archaios
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From: "Todd Mitchell" <

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Subject: Re: Re: Re: [CF-Devel] Icestorm - could not move - death

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      In real-life (if it even matters) heavy winds cause damage to property

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      every day - even to the point to tearing the roof off of buildings and

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      flipping over vehicles so I don't see how it is such a ridiculous notion

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      - let alone an 'utterly ridiculous' one.  I have been out in a moderate

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      blizzard and believe me it is hard to move, hard to see and hard to do

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      anything while the freezing wind and snow whips past.  As for fire -

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      even excluding the heat that much air moving is certainly a force to be

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      considered. More unusual is that in the game they do *not* push objects

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      IMHO. Anyway I removed the weights from icestorm and firebreath/burning

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      hands so they will not use the knockback effect.  Windstorm I have left

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      alone as it *always* used this code in the past and the new wave spell I

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      have also left alone since no existing maps use it.

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      As I said before the knockback effect was not new.  Perhaps the move

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      object function is highlighting the problem however in that it appears

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      to have an paralyzing effect on players in addition to pushing them.

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      Anyway my mistake was to apply weights to incorporate a new effect in

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      some existing spells and I have corrected that in CVS.

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      On Mon, 2004-05-24 at 07:31, David McIlwraith wrote:

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      > I agree. The new effect of icestorm, &c. that *moves* objects is utterly

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      > ridiculous: in real life, would one expect an 'ice storm' to actually

     push a
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      > great distance?

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      > I think not. Same for 'burning hands', et al and all the other area

     spells
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      > that have been negatively affected.

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      > -archaios

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