[crossfire] GTK V2 client default layout and map size

Juha Jäykkä juhaj at iki.fi
Fri Feb 15 05:11:56 CST 2008


Hi!

I've been following the discussion on client layouts with great concern. What 
makes me concerned is the fact that most people seem to be fixed on the idea 
that a) the game window dimensions equal screen resolution and b) the window 
layout is (at least almost) fixed.

For point a) please note that some people (at least me) never use full screen 
size windows for any purpose (except on my htpc, but that does not even have 
a keyboard and mouse so I won't be playing on it) and the current unability 
to let the window manager resize the window is simply absurd. If a user wants 
to resize crossfire window to 20x20 pixels, it's the user's problem when if 
becomes totally useless. Almost all programs scale their internal window 
widget sizes according to the window size (or introduce scroll bars). Why 
would crossfire not do this? For the map-view-widget this would probably be 
pointless, but at least everything else could scale. Even the map widget 
could scale at least is tile-size steps: if 16x16 tiles no longer fit on 
whatever size the user adjusted the window to, then only draw 15x15 - and 
leave some blank if the actual size is 15.5x15.5 or resize the info widgets 
to fill that space.

For point b) Raphaël already noted GIMP, my example would have been from 
gaming: FreeCiv. It has *exactly* the same situation as crossfire: a current 
map view based on tiles and some informative widgets displaying, for example, 
an overview of the whole world map etc. If you resize the window, the map 
view shrinks etc. No fixed map window sizes or anything. User can do whatever 
one likes, even float some of the widgets to separate windows (I would not 
like that feature myself in a real-time game like CF, but rearranging the 
widgets within the master window would be useful).

Is there a reason for points a) and b) being as they are 1) now, 2) in the 
future? I hope there is no reason to keep them such in the future...

-Juha

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