[crossfire] Attacktypes

[igniz revolver]

As a victim of many of these attacks, i'd agree with some of these changes
but not others.

Confusion and Paralyse are nice CC's for a creature or player to use, but
their duration is so long and the effects so potent that it's something a
player should endeavor to become immune to. If the duration could be
reduced, that would be better.

The sorcery spell, confusion is also largely useless as a melee attack, it'd
be much better if it was the cone attack monsters throw out. Though I take
it, that's covered by the mass confusion spell?

Poison changing to stat damage would be horrific to deal with. The only
thing I'd like to see changed about it is the duration of poison and also
disease. It seems impossible to overcome disease and poison can last so
long. From a player perspective, poison does too little damage over too long
a time to be effective against monsters, but for a player - poison can stack
up to horrendous levels.

Blind is okay, imo, but fog doesn't seem to work for a lot of things. So
spells like Steamball are less useful than they should be.

On 20 May 2010 07:26, Mark Wedel <mwedel at sonic.net> wrote:

>
>  I was thinking over attacktypes some, and while I do not have any plans to
> work on this, thought I'd at least record these thoughts before I forget :)
>
>  The general basis here is to make attacktypes that are somewhat balanced,
> that
> will be used by both players and monsters, that are used somewhat
> frequently (an
> attacktype that only 2 monsters use isn't all that interesting) and are not
> really annoying.  Some was to also clean up some of the attacktypes.
>
>  I'm only going to include attacktypes which I think need changing.
>
> Confusion:  Problem with this attacktype is that you don't want to use it
> on
> monsters, because it makes them move in random ways, making them _harder_
> to
> kill.  If a player gets hit with it, same thing happens, but player can
> generally eliminate the effects with spell, scroll or potion.  My thought
> for
> this one is to change it so that confused creatures can not do actions that
> require thought, eg, cast spells, use scrolls (and maybe wands) - this
> makes it
> less powerful than now, but does make this a bit of a counter for mages.
>
> Fear: Not as bad as confusion, but it makes monsters run away, which makes
> them
> harder to chase down and kill.  As a player, fairly annoying in that it
> takes
> the control of the character away from the player (character will move for
> X
> time running away).  Thought here is to change it so recipient suffers
> AC/WC
> penalties (eg, easier to hit feared creature, and harder for feared
> creature to
> hit you).  This is sort of the counter for fighters, so something that does
> fear
> + confusion would counter most classes.
>
> Paralyzation: Problem is if characters get affected, they just have to hope
> they
> survive - there is nothing they can do until it runs out.  The result of
> this is
> that most characters will have a immunity to paralyzation item, which sort
> of
> makes this attacktype meaningless.  I don't have a good solution hear, but
> given
> how little this is used, it could probably just get removed all together.
>
> Drain: Like paralyzation, more annoying - once you are hit and lose exp,
> other
> than killing stuff, no way to get it back, so once again, most characters
> just
> get some immunity item.  Players having drain attacks are not that useful,
> because the character will get the exp if they kill the creature - only
> real use
> is against other players.  Thought here is to perhaps merge it/replace it
> with
> life stealing, so that drain also drains sp and grace.  This makes it a
> fairly
> nasty attack if you are losing hp/sp/grace while fighting a creature, but
> not so
> nasty that immunity items need to exist.
>
> Poison: While good now, this could be extended in many ways.  AD&Dv3 made
> an
> interesting change in that most poisons don't do hp damage, but instead
> damage
> stats for a while.  So in crossfire, one could have poisons that drain con
> by 5
> points until cured, or drain pow by 10 points, etc.  Makes poisons fairly
> nasty,
> and fact that there are multiple poisons makes things more interesting.  I
> think
> one way to do this is that items with a poison attacktype also have an
> inventory
> of the poison they do.  This then means that for characters, you could have
> bottles of poison about you could apply to your sword (sword gets
> additional
> poison attacktype, and poison effect is moved from bottle inventory to
> sword
> inventory) - when you hit, the code finds the poison in the inventory of
> the
> sword, and removes it, and there is some mechanism which says how many
> doses/what chance of poison wearing off the blade is.
>
> Ghosthit: Should be removed, replaced by revised drain/life stealing, and a
> flag
> added to note creature only survives some number of hits.
>
> Turn undead: Should perhaps get renamed since I think this operates on the
> gods
> enemies, and not just undead.
>
> Depletion: no real problems, just not anything all that terrible either.
>  You
> may fight some creatures that has it, realize a few stats are depleted and
> go
> get a potion of life.  Probably more interesting to replace creatures that
> use
> this with life stealing/revised dragin.
>
> Death: Generally not useful, should probably get removed (not used many
> places)
> - the all or nothing death approach just doesn't work very well in a game
> like
> crossfire.
>
> Chaos: Not really an attacktype - this is just a special attacktype which
> then
> hits with a random elemental attacktype.
>
> Cancellation - maybe gets removed - this non hp damaging attacktype just
> removes
> +magic from items, but is not used much.
>
> counterspell: another one that does no damage, and probably should not be
> an
> attacktype- IIRC what this is really used for is that if a spell hits a
> space
> with this attacktype, the spell doesn't go any further.  Than in itself is
> a
> neat feature, but using an attacktype probably is not the right approach.
>
> Blind: with fog of war, I'm not sure how relevant this really is, plus it
> seems
> to be used in very few places/monsters.
>
>
>
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